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Outline:
We have too many 'ways to proceed' to construct a 'theology' and/or a system of beliefs about reality:
"Can we, indeed, go further and say that the notion of God as the perfect being gives us all the guidance we need in setting forth the divine attributes, so that our whole conception of God can be, as it were, woven in its entirety from this single thread?
"Probably not, for several reasons. For one thing, although the idea of God as the perfect being has strong intuitive appeal, it is by no means the case that different theologians, even from the same religious tradition, will always agree on which conception of God's attributes has the effect of portraying God as 'more perfect" that another. For example: It seemed clear to Anselm as to Augustine (354-430) and most other ancient and medieval theologians, that in order to be perfect God must be impassable-- that is, God must be incapable of emotion, and in particular incapable of feeling any sorrow or suffering as a result of the afflictions of his creatures. Since suffering is negative, a harm to the being that undergoes it, a perfect being must be incapable of suffering. Many more recent theologians, on the other hand, rebel against the notion of an "impassable" God, insisting that God's perfection, and in particular his attributes of love and sympathy, positively require that he be capable of suffering along with his creatures. Clearly, we have here a major disagreement...
The sense of the world must lie outside the world. In the world everything is as it is and happens as it does happen. In it there is no value—and if there were, it would be of no value. If there is a value which is of value, it must lie outside all happening and being-so. For all happening and being-so is accidental. What makes it non-accidental cannot lie in the world, for otherwise this would again be accidental. It must lie outside the world. [Ludwig Wittgenstein. Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, 6.41]
"About 1880, some French teachers tried to set up a secular ethics which went something like this: God is a useless and costly hypothesis; we are discarding it; but, meanwhile, in order for here to be an ethics, a society, a civilization, it is essential that certain values be taken seriously and that they be considered as having an a priori existence. It must be obligatory, a priori, to be honest, not to lie, not to beat your wife, to have children, etc., etc. So we're going to try a little device which will make it possible to show that values exist all the same, inscribed in a heaven of ideas, though otherwise God does not exist. In other words nothing will be changed if God does not exist. We shall find ourselves with the same norms of honesty, progress, and humanism, and we shall have made of God an outdated hypothesis which will peacefully die off by itself. The existentialist, on the contrary, thinks it very distressing that God does not exist, because all possibility of finding values in a heaven of ideas disappears along with Him; there can no longer be an a priori Good, since there is no infinite and perfect consciousness to think it. Nowhere is it written that the Good exists, that we must be honest, that we must not lie; because the fact is we are on a plane where there are only men."
"...but if I've discarded God the Father, there has to be someone to invent values. You've got to take things as they are. Moreover, to say that we invent values means nothing else but this: life has no meaning a priori."
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve. (2 Cor. 11:13)
Now the Holy Spirit clearly says that in the later times some people will stop believing the faith. They will follow spirits that lie and teachings of demons. Such teachings come from the false words of liars whose consciences are destroyed as if by a hot iron. [1 Tim 4:1–2]
These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. (Jude 19)
"Bring in your idols to tell us what is going to happen. Tell us what the former things were, so that we may consider them and know their final outcome. Or declare to us the things to come, tell us what the future holds, so we may know that you are gods. Do something, whether good or bad, so that we will be dismayed and filled with fear. (Isaiah. 41:22)
Ancient literature is notoriously bad about 'losing the originals'. All such literature requires gathering of copies, quotes, inscriptions, etc. and then using textual criticism methods to propose an original form--at varying levels of confidence. Most cases of this yield high levels of confidence, and confidence is proportional to number of documents, dating of documents, historical situations, etc.
In the case of the NT, we are in what is arguably the best situation in ancient history.
In comparison with mainstay ancient works,
"The data that emerge in the comparative argument is impressive for the New Testament's textual basis. No matter how the numbers are updated or changed for classics, the New Testament still has more attestation, better attestation, and better early attestation. Indeed, noted classicist Giorgio Pasquali has said as much of the New Testament: "No other Greek text is handed down so richly and credibly." [Giorgio Pasquali, Storia della tradizione e critica del testo, 2nd ed. (Florence: Le Monnier, 1952), 8.] This cannot itself prove that we have exactly what the New Testament authors wrote down, but it does show that the New Testament scholar has better material to work with than scholars of standard classical works." [Hixson, Elijah; Gurry, Peter J.; Wallace, Daniel B.. Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism (p. 86). InterVarsity Press. Kindle Edition.]For example, the NT was completely written by the end of the 1st century AD (i.e. 100 AD).
The Institute for New Testament Textual Research (INTF) is the standard 'keeper of record' for NT witnesses. Their dating estimates are used as the 'standard', and --combined with the judgments of the editors of the Nestle-Aland(28) text of the Greek NT-- we have confidence in the dating of these early papyri:
These are partial copies, but they survived -- and bear witness to content even closer to the events. So, by the tightest criteria scholars can muster (without eliminating all the other classical works), the NT we have is a trustworthy copy of the original.
disputed fact confirming discovery ------------------------- -------------------- writing at time of Moses (too many to name!) multiple Pentateuch traditions, Qumran pointing to early orig. Early Domestication of Camels Byblos artifacts/Sumerian texts Abraham's selection of heir Tablets at Nuzi Transfer of Esau's birthright Tablets at Nuzi Israel early in Palestine Stele of Meneptah Unity of Deuteronomy Hittite tablets from Boghazkoy Early develop. of legal codes multiple ANE sources
"Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom; listen to the law of our God, you people of Gomorrah! "The multitude of your sacrifices -- what are they to me?" says the LORD. I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to appear before me, who has asked this of you, this trampling of my courts? Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations -- I cannot bear your evil assemblies. Your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts my soul hates. They have become a burden to me; I am weary of bearing them. When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide my eyes from you; even if you offer many prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood; ... wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Defend the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow. "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD. Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool. If you are willing and obedient, you will eat the best from the land; but if you resist and rebel, you will be devoured by the sword." For the mouth of the LORD has spoken. (Isaiah)
"Was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him -- (Acts 7:52)
On Feb. 23, 303 AD., at Nicomedia, the Roman Emperor Diocletian issued an edict enjoining the demolition of Christian churches and the burning of all Christian books in the empire. Half a million Christians were killed in the process. (There were 9 previous official persecutions of Christians in the empire, but this was the first one that prescribed destruction of the sacred texts.) That ANY texts survived is barely believable... that we have SO MANY surviving mss. borders on the incredible!
"I am not insane, most excellent Festus," Paul replied. "What I am saying is true and reasonable. The king is familiar with these things, and I can speak freely to him. I am convinced that none of this has escaped his notice, because it was not done in a corner. (Acts 26:25)
"Very young babies present an extraordinary range of auditory abilities. There have been several experiments in which different sounds are played to babies, and their responses monitored. For example, day-old babies have been played their mother's voice speaking normally, the same voice speaking abnormally (in a monotone), and a stranger's voice: only the first caused them to attend. Other studies have shown how babies turn their heads towards the source of a sound within the first few days of life, and prefer human voices to non-human sounds as early as 2 weeks.We bring this personal context to seemingly everything we do-- we personify everything from Mother Nature to Lady Justice to Father Time to 'those stubborn bosons!'... [boson = force-carrying subatomic particle, which eluded detection for many, many years...]
If we see a chaotic stretch of debris, we assume vandals or passersby or maybe natural forces (like hurricane Camille)
"The feature-extraction and feature-combination processes underlying pattern recognition are NOT available to conscious awareness. What we are aware of are the patterns (Epis. and Cognition, p. 186)
"In addition to bottom-up processing, there is considerable evidence for top-down processing, in which higher-level beliefs, or background beliefs, influence the interpretation of low-level perceptual units. Psychologists have particularly shown that knowledge of a pattern's context influence how one perceives that pattern.
"A great deal of research has been carried out on the perception of isolated sounds, syllables, or words. In connected speech, however, very different processes seem to operate. We do not perceive whole sentences as a sequence of isolated sounds. Grammar and meaning strongly influence our ability to identify linguistic units. (p147)
"One reason why we are able to recognize speech, despite all the acoustic variation in the signal, and even in very difficult listening conditions, is that the speech situation contains a great deal of redundancy--more information than is strictly necessary to decode the message. There is, firstly, our general ability to make predictions about the nature based on our previous linguistic experience -- our knowledge of the speaker, subject matter, language, and so on. But in addition, the wide range of frequencies found in every speech signal presents us with far more information than we need in order to recognize what is being said. As a result, we are able to focus our auditory attention on just the relevant distinguishing features of the signal. (TCEL, p146)
"Normal speech proves to be so rapidly and informally articulated that in fact over half the words cannot be recognized in isolation--and yet listeners have little trouble following it, and can repeat whole sentences accurately." (TCEL,p147)
Was this communication sufficiently 'authenticated'
by its characteristics, so that a large group of people RECOGNIZED it as
a communication from God? Were they aware of its "Other Worldly" origin?
Yes, both the written forms and the main designated emissaries were accorded such unique status:
Example: The finalizing of the canon of the NT...
As these individual communities began comparing their lists, they found substantial overlap in them. In other words, the authentic character of the revelation somehow impressed itself upon the communities-even in isolation from other--with the result that the combined community could cite these works with the 'it is written' formula...The disputes over what books were 'in' and which were 'out' had the public scholarly dimensions I mentioned...but the individual decisions were made by groups of individuals who 'responded' somehow to the self-manifested authority of the revelatory writings.
All of this occurred within 50-100 years of the production of the writings...and the probability of getting this level of consensus from disconnected groups, with diverse cultural backgrounds (Jewish, Hellenistic), and without any formal or ecclesiastical 'teeth' is minute...and to me, within this worldview context, suggests some level of divine 'control' from within the believing communities...
This situation (an existent collection of the Pentateuch) at Ezra's time, points to a very early production of the Pentateuch. The fact that the Samaritans (the remnants of the Northern Kingdom of Israel) would NOT HAVE borrowed the Pentateuch from the Southern kingdom (for political reasons) during its independent existence, argues that their basic source document MUST HAVE BEEN completed at least by the reign of Solomon (the last king before the division of the nation), and possibly considerably before that.
Then the king sent, and all the elders of Judah and Jerusalem were gathered to him. And the king went up to the house of the LORD, and with him all the men of Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem and the priests and the prophets, all the people, both small and great. And he read in their hearing all the words of the Book of the Covenant that had been found in the house of the LORD. And the king stood by the pillar and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all his heart and all his soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people joined in the covenant.
Whatever the God of heaven has prescribed, let it be done with diligence for the temple of the God of heaven. Why should there be wrath against the realm of the king and of his sons? You are also to know that you have no authority to impose taxes, tribute or duty on any of the priests, Levites, singers, gatekeepers, temple servants or other workers at this house of God. And you, Ezra, in accordance with the wisdom of your God, which you possess, appoint magistrates and judges to administer justice to all the people of Trans-euphrates --all who know the laws of your God. And you are to teach any who do not know them. Whoever does not obey the law of your God and the law of the king must surely be punished by death, banishment, confiscation of property, or imprisonment.
This is the issue of fidelity--how faithfully were they transmitted?
Was there textual corruption, as they were balancing (1) the need to preserve and (2) the need to update the linguistic 'container' without changing/losing the actual content/payload...
Matt. 23:34 [Jesus speaking] Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
"In addition, both the Bible itself (cf. Deut 31.9f f Josh 24.25,26 ; I Sam 10.25) and the literature of the ancient Near East show that at the time of its earliest composition a psychology of canonicity existed. This psychology must have fostered a concern for the care and accuracy in the transmission of the sacred writings. For example, a treaty of the Hittite international suzerainty treaties parallel to Yahweh's covenant with Israel at Sinai contains this explicit threat: "Whoever changes but one word of this tablet, may the weather god...and the thousand gods of this tablet root that man's descendants out of the land of Hatti."Likewise one of the Sefire Steles (c. 750 BC) reads, "Whoever...says, 'I will efface some of its words,'...may the gods throw over that man and his house and all in it."
Again, at the conclusion of the famous Code of Hammurabi imprecations are hurled against those who would try to alter the Law. " (Bruce Waltke, "The Textual Criticism of the OT" in the Expositor's Bible Commentary, vol I, page 212)
One striking example of this is the preservation of the clay tablet forms of the material in Gen 1-37. The layout of the literary structure conforms to known patterns of ANE legal tablet documents. These documents had a title, body of text, and ending colophon (pointing to owner and/or author). These documents were used in legal and civic matters, such as family histories, genealogy, and land disputes. These documents, made of clay, were of necessity small and therefore brief and often terse.These tablets in Genesis are marked off by the use of the Hebrew word toledoth, which is often mis-translated as 'generations' rather than as 'history'. (The normal Hebrew word for 'generations' was dor.) This work marks the END of a tablet and not the BEGINning, as some translations indicate. In this capacity, toledoth marks out eleven tablet-structures in Early Genesis:
- Gen 1.1-2.4 ---- (the origins of the cosmos)
- Gen 2.5-5.2 ---- (the origins of humanity)
- Gen 5.3-6.9a ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by Noah)
- Gen 6.9b-10.1 ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by the sons belonging to and/or written by Noah)
- Gen 10.2-11.10a ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by Shem)
- Gen 11.10b-11.27a ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by Terah)
- Gen 11.27b-25.12 ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by Ishmael)
- Gen 25.13-25.19a ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by Isaac)
- Gen 25.19b-36.1 ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by Esau)
- Gen 36.2-36.9 ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by Esau)
- Gen 36.10-37.2 ---- (the histories belonging to and/or written by Jacob)
We do not know who edited these documents into one work, but since another such tablet can be recovered from Numbers 1.1-3.1, it seems reasonable to suppose that this activity was by and large done by Moses.
The data of Genesis bears witness to the extreme antiquity of the work (and the corresponding fidelity of transmission, extending even to literary forms that "passed off the stage of history until the present"). Some of the evidences of this antiquity are:
- Large number of Babylonian words that occur in the earlier part of the work;
- Topographical references and the glosses needed to bring those up to date for the reader (14.2,3,7,8,15,17; 16:14;23.2;35.19);
- Primitive geographical expressions such as the 'south country' (Gen 20.1; 24.62) and the 'east country' (25.6), used in the days of Abraham, but not being used again as these areas developed boundaries and well-known names.
The base 'message-text' seems to have been preserved at an almost obsessive level. I have already mentioned the data on the NT mss, in which the number of MSS (of varying extent) exceeds 5,000. In that case the abundance of mss is 'strange'. In the case of the OT, the situation is the reverse. The OT had a very, very tightly controlled transmission, and every defective copy was burned/destroyed...in that case, the few early OT MSS point to a special handling by the literate class of their sacred book...
The OT was basically finished around 400 BC/BCE, but the earliest full copies (of all the books together) we have are from around 900 AD....
We have fragments earlier, and can historically reconstruct the text back to around 100 AD/CE (beginning of the Talmudist period) ...in this regard, the mss tradition is comparable to other classical literature...but the means of transmission of that text is so bizarre as to suggest that its reliability is very, very high...
For example, in the Talmudist period (100-500 AD/CE) a great deal of time was spent in cataloging Hebrew civil and canonical law... They had a very, very intricate system for the transcription of synagogue scrolls...some of the rules were:
As bizarre as these may seem, they certainly convey an attention (even preoccupation) with detail, that would go a long way to preserving the textual-form of the message (not meaning, just form)
By the time you get to the Masoretic Period (AD/CE 500-900), the discipline and safeguards are full-blown...they attempted over this period to bring together the various mss, create a catalog of variant readings, add vocalization, etc...they added a huge overhead of checksums to the process...
They calculated:
Up until 1947, how 'good' this transmission process would have been was open to question...but in November of 1947, the discovery of the Qumran scrolls (roughly, aka "Dead Sea Scrolls") gave us an interesting checkpoint...the discovery was of 40,000 fragments from which some 500 books were reconstructed... they recovered the great Isaiah scroll (24 feet in length) which was dated at 100 BC. by W.F. Albright, the leading American biblical archeologist, of Johns Hopkins Univ.
The question was quickly raised: how did this mss, that was a full millennium earlier than the best Masoretic text of Isaiah we had at the time, compare with it? Let me quote from Geisler and Nix, General Introduction to the Bible, 1968.
"Of the 166 words in Isaiah 53, there are only 17 letters in question. Ten of these letters are simply a matter of spelling, which does not affect the sense. Four more letters are minor stylistic changes, such as conjunctions. The remaining three letters comprise the word 'light' which is added in verse 11, and does not affect the meaning greatly. Furthermore, this word is supported by LXX and IQ Is. Thus, in one chapter of 166 words, there is only one word (3 letters) in question after a thousand years of transmission--and this word does not significantly change the meaning of the passage"and then Gleason Archer, Survey of the Old Testament, 1964:
"[the Isaiah copies] proved to be word for word identical with our standard Hebrew Bible in more than 95 percent of the text. The 5 percent variation consisted chiefly of obvious slips of the pen and variations in spelling [by the Qumranists]"So the transmission methods, although apparently a bit overkill (!), seemed to preserve the text from at least the close of period in which the OT was actually written...
Last piece under this point...I find it interesting that the whole attitude of fidelity to the original by the copyists extended even to transliteration of foreign names into/out of Hebrew, and that this was recognized as early as 30 years ago:
"In 144 cases of transliteration from Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian and Moabite into Hebrew and 40 cases of the opposite, or 184 in all, the evidence shows that for 2300 to 3900 years the text of the proper names in the Hebrew bible has been transmitted with the most minute accuracy. That the original scribes should have written them with such close conformity to correct philological principles is a wonderful proof of their thorough care and scholarship; further, that the Hebrew text should have been transmitted by copyists through so many centuries is a phenomenon unequaled in the history of literature" (Robert D. Wilson, A Scientific Investigation of the Old Testament, 1959)There are other data points on the OT stuff (e.g. NT quotations, targums, mishnah) but this is probably too much detail already. (The issue of how the texts came together BEFORE the end of the OT is a subject WAY beyond the scope of this ).
The point was: the base of the text seems to have been preserved adequately as a vehicle for God's message.
The Institute for New Testament Textual Research (INTF) is the standard 'keeper of record' for NT witnesses. Their dating estimates are used as the 'standard', and --combined with the judgments of the editors of the Nestle-Aland(28) text of the Greek NT-- we have confidence in the dating of these early papyri:
These are partial copies, but they survived -- and bear witness to larger manuscripts at the same time and earlier.
This refers to the scribal practice of abbreviating divine names/titles (generally considered to be after the model of the tetragrammaton "YHWH"). Metzger defined them as "divine names written in contracted form with a supralinear line". Although the practice is common in the earliest of NT fragments, it only occasionally occurs in pre-NT times
Up to 97% of all people have some scripture translated into their language or second language.
John 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
John 16:13ff But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.
1 John 2:18ff They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
1 Cor. 11:18f In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God's approval.
Acts 20:29f I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.
2 Tim. 4:3f For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
2 Pet. 2:1ff But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them -- bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up.
Eph. 4:14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
2 Tim. 2:16ff Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have wandered away from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.
Hebr. 13:9 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
1Cor. 8:6yet for us there is but One God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."
1 Tim. 3:16 Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.
Rom. 9:25
As he says in Hosea: 'I will call them 'my people' who are not my people; and I will call her 'my loved one' who is not my loved one,' and, It will happen that in the very place where it was said to them, You are not my people,' they will be called 'sons of the living God.' ' ..... What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the 'stumbling stone.' As it is written: 'See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.'
compare with I Peter 2.6-10:
1 Pet. 2:6
For in Scripture it says: 'See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.' Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, 'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, ' and, 'A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.' ... But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
2 Tim. 2:11 Here is a trustworthy saying:
(1A) If we died with him, we will also live with him; Phil. 2:5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:(2A) If we endure, we will also reign with him. (1A') If we are faithless, he will remain faithful, for he cannot disown himself.
(2A') If we disown him, he will also disown us;
[1A] Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, [2A] but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. [1A'] every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.[3A] And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death-- even death on a cross! [2A'] that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and
[3A'] Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
Luke 8:10: "He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that, " 'though seeing, they may not see though hearing, they may not understand.' [He quotes from Isaiah]
Matt. 22:41: While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, "What do you think about the Christ ? Whose son is he?" The son of David," they replied. He said to them, "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'Lord'? For he says, " 'The Lord said to my Lord: Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." ' If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?" No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.
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All PRIMARY 'foundational documents' (sacred or secular) generate a body of SECONDARY beliefs. In the secular sphere, an example would be interpretations of the US Constitution. In the sacred sphere, these documents generate 'systems' of interpretation, application, and perhaps collections of associated background information. In many (most?) cases, these SECONDARY materials are written down, preserved, added to over time, and used as 'strong guidelines' for interpreting the PRIMARY MATERIALS. They are not considered "AS SACRED" as the PRIMARY materials, but 'SEMI-SACRED" -- i.e. you can get in 'trouble' for disagreeing with them... sigh/smile.As one might imagine, there could be ("are"!) competing sets of Secondary materials. For examples, Islam has its 'sets of hadith' and ancient Judaism had two Talmuds. Hinduism and Buddhism have the same phenomena.
But these 'collections of interpretations/etc.' do not have to be written down, but might just be 'consensus opinions' taught in schools (both sacred and secular).
There are even TERTIARY levels of tradition, that might be best represented by 'dominant' commentaries on the PRIMARY/SECONDARY materials and 'sermons' given by respected teachers.
Famous teachers generate their own 'unintentional' streams of tradition, often even DEFINING sub-groups. In the Christian Protestant world, obvious examples would be Martin Luther / Lutheranism and John Calvin / Calvinism.
The more 'ancient' a secondary tradition is, the more likely it can be helpful to those trying to follow the PRIMARY documents.
But since these documents are 'further from' the original PRIMARY documents, the amount of 'NEW human ingredients' that makes their way into the documents can present a problem (and point of controversy and/or divergence from the 'intent' of the Primary documents).
Many bodies of tradition may contain important insights, so none can be dismissed out-of-hand.Likewise, they should never be accorded the 'status' of the Primary, so they still have to be 'critically examined' before adopting.
Tradition can be super helpful -- since religious communities exist in/through history/time -- due to their collection of VARIOUS viewpoints in the history of interpretation.
"Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem, they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands properly, holding to the tradition of the elders, and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, "Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?"
And he said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written,
"'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men."
And he said to them, "You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition! For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.' But you say, 'If a man tells his father or his mother, "Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban"' (that is, given to God) -- then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother, thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do."
The scriptures DO a good bit of self-interpreting, by giving cases of where the generic principles (e.g. the original Mosaic covenant/treaty/contract, Jesus' commandment to 'love one another as I have loved you) are followed or ignored.The NT recognizes some of the OT experiences as being 'forward looking', to include examples to follow (Book of Hebrews 11) and some NOT to follow (I Cor 10).
The fact that there are LARGE amounts of OT texts embedded and/or alluded to in BOTH the OT itself and in the NT set a precedent to START WITH 'letting the Word interpret the Word'.
There is a TON of helpful redundancy in the message, but most of it is for helping us with pre-mortem life.
COMPLETE rescue from post-mortem danger can be gained by simply finding (and following) a SINGLE verse about trusting Jesus' claims, since the goal of the message was to make this CLEAR and EASY.
All that is needed is simple trust in the Message-in-Flesh, the 'one from above'...
"For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day." (John 6:38ff)"When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." [John 17.1-5]
"He said to them, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins." [John 8.23]
"You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life." [John 5.39]
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. (John 3.16f; author of the gospel of John)
"He who comes from above is above all. He who is of the earth belongs to the earth and speaks in an earthly way. He who comes from heaven is above all. He bears witness to what he has seen and heard, yet no one receives his testimony. … The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life" [John 3.31ff ; John the Baptist]
- What about our knowledge of history, language, culture, etc.--not in the Bible?
Needless to say, without these the written message (and its witness to the Message-in-Flesh Jesus) is silent.These are parts of the context that is required for this--but, fortunately, God has providentially 'structured' our history and biology in such a way as to help us 'get there' easier.
- A Holistic view--the issue of starting point, Christ-centrism, and iteration
Like most literature, understanding is an iterative process, but the correct starting-point can made a huge difference.If I pick up a book and know ahead-of-time that it is about Sir Isaac Newton, then I will automatically 'map' adjectives and scenes into some (presumed) image of what the world was like BACK THEN.
If I pick up the same book and mistakenly think it is about Julius Caesar, then my mapping efforts will create dissonance--enough to make me doubt by starting-point. I would then look for clues as to a better one, and try again.
Jesus said explicitly that the OT Scriptures pointed to Him, and that "Moses wrote of me".
Hence we speak of a 'Christo-centric' starting point, but recognizing that it will be more about ROLES (e.g. rescuer, leader, sacrifice) than about TITLES or NAMES.
[Although note that 'Christ' -- as meaning simply 'anointed' -- is a title often used in the OT, and not just about the Future After-Moses Prophet.]
Deut. 5:24 And you said, "The LORD our God has shown us his glory and his majesty, and we have heard his voice from the fire. Today we have seen that a man can live even if God speaks with him.
Deut. 29:29 The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.
Matt. 4:4 Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.' "
| A. The bible we have today, as a translation of a translation of a translation, is probably so 'watered down' that we don't even HAVE the Bible". | 1. If God acted in history, religious truth could be expressed in historical terms. The writers didn't need myth-- they had the exodus, captivity, etc. |
| B. The church changed so much of the bible to further its financial and political agenda. | 2. Actually, it is not clear from arch. who borrowed from whom, but the general rule is that the more complex (the outside myths) is based on the simpler (the OT versions). |
| C. All the miracles stories about Jesus were added much later, to make the founder look more powerful. | 3. People don't die for something they KNOW is a lie--yet the apostles all died or were exiled for their claims. And besides, there were too many witnesses still alive to get away with it. |
| D. The apostles made up the whole story about Jesus the Messiah and his resurrection. | 4. But the earliest records we have (within a few years of the events) all describe the miracles, even with all those eyewitnesses still living. And they never did find the dead body of Jesus Christ to refute the resurrection. |
| E. The bible is literally teeming with errors! | 5. The main groups didn't, and what little was done by individuals, we can, and do, catch through the abundance of ancient mss. |
| F. It is common knowledge that the Bible is based on older myths from the surrounding cultures. | 6. Actually, we don't need to use translations at all. We have more than enough good, ancient mss (5,000+ for the NT!) to avoid the 'creeping errors' of the telephone game. |
| G. Sure Jesus believed the OT--just like all the other 1st Century Jews. As God became Man, he had all the knowledge limitations of the men in his day. He was just simply wrong about it. | 7. Actually, the number of alleged errors in the bible GOES DOWN over time. We have so many cases where Biblical 'problems' were solved through archeological discovery, that it makes more sense to simply suspend judgment. |
| H. The bible is just myth--true myth--and not to be taken as historical fact. That would make it more a history book, than a great religious and spiritual work. | 8. But He corrected them on many points in which they were in error. Plus, He was never wrong about anything else, and he showed advanced knowledge often. |